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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
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蛮有意思的。经典台式恐怖桥段蛮多，但导演在去中心化和meta上很有想法，这两个算是新时代创作者必须关心的问题了。视觉错觉小惊喜。从“传播”切入是个好思路，下一部可以拍一个社交网络mix叫魂的狂霸酷炫拽的……足够影评人分析个三五年。
部分镜头让人不适，但要是不用这蛋疼的伪纪录，还能更恐怖一些吧。
太晦气了，还好没跟着女主搞那些。。。
其实我个人觉得中国跟泰国一样，因为涉及到很多民俗和宗教，所以特别适合拍涉及“群体意志”类的恐怖片。毕竟国外的恐怖都太过架空且直白，所有的神鬼都像种可以被人为打倒的外力，完全可以当成怪物片看，很少能够让人真正共情。但涉及到宗教和民俗的恐怖往往是心绪上的，就像《咒》里一直在强调的“精神的力量”，甚至还很容易会有“群体效应”。因为种种原因吧，咱们这方面的重担就都交给湾湾和香港了。香港的恐怖片受“僵尸”和“真实凶杀案”的影响很深，台湾的恐怖片却背靠“邪教和民俗”杀出了一条属于自己的特色道路。总得来说真的很特别，中式恐怖才是最屌的！
在迷信的层面，无需讨论文化断层。当代社交媒体上“吃不胖符”、“水逆退散符”可以过万转，那么在这片土地上，弥散性宗教的思想和实践，再过一千年也不会变。
最后，诅咒反弹给这部电影的编剧和导演！
看完和女朋友一起大呼晦气，也算是电影的成功了，优点是村落那段和邪教相关道具水平非常在线，世界一流的水平，再多给制作组点钱，完全可以构建一个6部起步的邪教世界观，未来可期。其次是结尾揭露女主邪恶本质这点很给力，比装可怜强多了。然后是给观众下诅咒有种第九艺术的体验，缺点是故事合理性还得捋一捋，然后用爱发电这段看得出导演努力的方向，但力度不够，震撼度也不够。这点《来了》里亲情的冷淡和邪恶反而让我印象深刻。
如果导演靠散播缝合怪诅咒来获取名利，导演明天就死
真是晦气啊！ 敢咒我？你个狗东西 我呸
令人窒息的25分钟长镜头算是烙印在我心里了
所有看完此片的朋友，请大声念三遍如下咒语：
导演笑着说：大黑佛母和所有神像的设计和制作最烧钱，我们把钱都砸在这里了！尤其是那一尊大黑佛母是我们去找人做的，手势、咒语到符咒符号都是我们虚构的。不过能让大家一直问是不是真的存在的神明，代表我们的美术团队真的很厉害！”大家千万不用担心看完《咒》会被“祝福”啦～
午夜凶铃似的传播、感染，看谁信了邪。对于伪记录式恐怖，我是完全过滤的，但影片结尾的诅咒，就像面孔上溃烂的百双眼睛，像密密麻麻的齿龈，密布的恶虫要往脑子里不安地钻
体制如此，个人能做的实在太少，哪怕只是救回一个人........
不要重复她的话，不要学她的动作，不要盯着那个符号看就没啥晦气的。就是拍了个午夜凶铃录像带加长版给观众看，恶心谁呢，低级。手持拍摄还不停换多机位，搞笑呢。无耳芳一、莲蓬乳、暗处鬼手、心理暗示，没啥新鲜料。这个vlog都不如那些探险废屋的有意思，无聊。（怎么难看还不许讲啊？居然大半夜还发私信辱骂？这么在意豆瓣评价吗？）
算是恐怖片里还算不错的吧，但能不能不要再伪纪录片了…一回新二回旧三回四回老掉牙了都。
心理承受能力差者，或者真的相信诅咒者，请慎重观看！！不然会觉得晦气。
这么好看刺激的恐怖片打低分怎么想的，从头到尾喘不过气，特别是闽南地区出身看这些拜拜仪式简直是更毛骨悚然，演员表现都特别好，说实话故事有点抑郁，就是“无论如何也逃不出无法被救赎”的设定，真的吓死我了今晚估计睡不着了….
期待太高，驚嚇有限，即便在故事過半時已經猜到了包袱的底，卻還是喜歡柯孟融的敘事詭計設計，不討好觀眾，與觀眾之間形成了一種奇妙的互動，將偽紀錄恐怖片的類型做了進一步的拓展，將觀看行為也納入成為電影的一部分。
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