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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
向所有有良知的电影人致敬。
乏味的很，为什么英雄联盟和芝加哥七君子这两种水火不容的电影类型，都能在豆瓣找到共鸣？因为，它们来自灯塔。我从这部电影里只能看到美国民主的混乱不堪，貌似程序正义背后的弱肉强食，伪善
艾伦索金这个表达溢出的臭毛病怎么还没改，有没有人管管了
一切的不公，至少还可以说出来。另外，美国警察的所作所为，看来和政体的意志是一致的。
台词那么多，人物还是模糊。剪辑那么碎那么快，反而没带起全片节奏。整体结构摇摇晃晃，只有立场是明白的。
Davis 本人对索金的人物塑造持保留意见 缺点或者说窠臼还是有不少的 但让我个人兴奋的 reference 也是不少(别再吹 Eric Clapton 了 Ginger Baker 比他好到不知那里去了) 结尾的煽动性和喊话够直接 —— The Whole World Is Watching 但同时也要看到：Of course, there are very decent police officers in every state but the systemic racism in the police department just can’t be denied. 好歹是本方队友加一分鼓励吧 希望索金还是意识一下自己太白了的缺点 这种白化简直是可怜了的骑墙感
好片，这才是我想看到的六十年代，三个极左群体都特别鲜明，唯一可惜的是黑豹党戏份偏少了（虽然那句can you breathe一定是在指代BLM了）。少搞点Joker这样的假大空吧，历史里的真刀真枪还还嫌少吗？
Love can make us alive
5.1 这部电影的台词直接可以出一本语录了。节奏很好，两个小时非常政治的电影却一点也不觉得让人着急。我本以为是一个悲壮的历史正剧，结果却是一出抓马，但是该讨论到的东西一点没有少，并且结尾真的很煽情！！！
集中的群像实际只有三个半在线，唇枪舌剑没有实质性内容。
第一次感受到了舞台剧的震撼，这还是隔着屏幕的感受，在现场的话，非常幸福了！
8.4 索金对剧本的把控可谓是稳重得当，每句台词都宛如利刃刀刀见血极具力度，这场审判变成了法庭上思想与政治上的血拼，高度还原了美国政治极度动荡的那个年代，是当年政治思潮辩证政府体制的缩影。在群像的精彩演绎和索金强有力度的剪辑闪回下叙事极富煽动力，将电影步步推向高潮。而这也正是电影的亮点所在。但索金过多的左派立场思想让电影角度变得不公正也一定程度上修改了历史细节，这使得本片变成了一场左派份子的狂欢。
在诸多不平等、偏见和政治镇压下的审判下，还能得来的倾向正义的结局大快人心。庭审群戏台词有力，标准完美，层层递进，陈词共情。
向所有有良知的电影人致敬。
此类电影看多了都是一个套路，主旋律社会题材，匠气又刻意，有几处剪辑上的亮点（叙说和闪回结合），一看就是奔着奥斯卡去的，估计能接着今年社会运势的东风拿一些提名。看戏外发现更多有意思的地方，小雀斑演的人物是简方达的前夫，当年奥斯卡影帝之争，被小雀斑最后时刻逆转的基顿演了个配角，两人同场出镜
4.5 给剧本跪了，给演员跪了。🇨🇳这辈子下辈子再下辈子都不会有这种电影，哦当然，也并不需要。
艾伦索金是属于能用剧本影响到影像风格的那种编剧，连着看《乔布斯》和这一部感受就会非常明显。我以前觉得他的剧本很适合用来学习写台词，尤其是台词上下句的对称和衔接，那种语感和节奏真的绝了，但英文和中文语感本身不太一样，行业大环境也不同，渐渐觉得不是很适用，大部分人做不到他那么精准，而且注意力放在台词设计上之后，戏会不自觉为台词服务，就本末倒置了。这部索金自己做导演，不功不过，但在对剧本的完成度上想必他自己应该是很满意的
5.1 这部电影的台词直接可以出一本语录了。节奏很好，两个小时非常政治的电影却一点也不觉得让人着急。我本以为是一个悲壮的历史正剧，结果却是一出抓马，但是该讨论到的东西一点没有少，并且结尾真的很煽情！！！
C.不能改变体制就加入体制
-My life.
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